wish me health: Re: [lowdosenaltrexone] Re:The purpose of this group is to discuss LDN

Hi,

a suggestion:

change subject.

My English is not good enough, should have learned more before opening my mouth ;-)

Ingrid

----- Original Message ----
From: Wendy Hawthorne <wendy.hawthorne@yahoo.com>
To: lowdosenaltrexone@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:25:04 AM
Subject: Re: [lowdosenaltrexone] Re:The purpose of this group is to discuss LDN

It does not clear it up as it muddies the water. Ingrid wroteL: "As far as I understand it's not unethical to help a pet to get improvements.: And that was switched around as to say she might thing it is unethical to help pets get improvements from LDN. Important to read before responding.

Gunn Dybfest <gunn.ingrid@yahoo.com> wrote:

To clear up ;-)

Cindy, you wrote:

"...and ingrid - i have no idea where you got its unethical for people to have their dogs on ldn. Both my dogs are on ldn -its certainly isn't unethical. most drugs that pets get are "off label" they are human drugs that are used for certain problems for animals. it is not mainstream for sure but it defiantly won't hurt them. One of my dogs has pre-cancerous lesion removed and the other one many allergies a screwed up immune system and I feel like it certainly won't hurt him".

...As I wrote to answer another person:

"...If someone has a child

with MS, Crohns, Hepatitis, Ulcerative Colitis and want advice, they are

of course welcome to ask if LDN could be any help for them. LDN

also works for pets, if its ethical or unethical giving your dog LDN

is another discussion and therefor has to be discussed in another

place than here. As far as I understand it's not unethical to help a pet

to get improvements" .

I have pets myself. I would not at all have no doubt about giving them LDN

if they had a disease that would need med's like LDN or LDN- I have also suggested

for a person some weeks ago in here to give her cancer sick dog LDN.

But I would even discuss this with my vet, just to be sure of the doses and so one.

Doses for dogs or cats are often not the same as for humans, and med's for dogs

and cats could also differ. As far as I understand.

I still think that a discussion about the ethics around giving an animal should be

discussed in another forum than this one. And just to say it again: I don't think

it's unethical giving an animal med's that also suits for animals to help them.

I love my two Norwegian Forest Cats, I would do a lot for them if they were sick.

I would like to thank you Cindy, for the great job you, your son and your husband is

doing for us all, I have seen almost all video cuts and can't wait to watch the rest when

it's done. :-)

With all my best,

Ingrid

----- Original Message ----
From: Cyndi Lenz <psychrn@gate. net>
To: lowdosenaltrexone@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 4:29:46 PM
Subject: Re: [lowdosenaltrexone] Re:The purpose of this group is to discuss LDN

could I chime in please. This site is for LDN -there are other groups for other discussions. we have a ldn support group and on and on-many groups have branched off from here. there are some discussions about suppliments because everyone here has good information -
and ingrid - i have no idea where you got its unethical for people to have their dogs on ldn. Both my dogs are on ldn -its certainly isn't unethical. most drugs that pets get are "off label" they are human drugs that are used for certain problems for animals. it is not mainstream for sure but it defiantly won't hurt them. One of my dogs has pre-cancerous lesion removed and the other one many allergies a screwed up immune system and I feel like it certainly won't hurt him. My dogs also take omega fatty acids (nordic naturals omega threes for pets) --its just not as mainstream but just as important. There are dogs that get a disease that looks just like ms- imagine if you could turn those dogs around with ldn.

Because skip and I deal with many veterinarians and because we are so active in ldn -when they go to our website they get curious -so its the same people power that brought ldn to the people could bring ldn to the dogs.

Cyndi Lenz

psychrn@gate. net

clenz@mac.com

http://www.tdgr2pro ductions. com

On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Gunn Dybfest wrote:

You wrote:..."It is
also suppose to be a MS site but people ask the same
stupid questions and talk about ldn for their kids and
pets".

Hi berconst!

I hope that this site is for me too, I don't have MS,

I have used this site for months, I have always been told

that this site is for all that is interessted in discussing issues

that is connected with LDN. Not only the medication, but also

the dosing, the time to take it, the vitamins and other

helpful things to use in conjuction to it. If someone has a child

with MS, Crohns, Hepatitis, Ulcerative Colitis and want advice, they are

of course welcome to ask if LDN could be any help for them. LDN

also works for pets, if its ethical or unethical giving your dog LDN

is another discussion and therefor has to be discussed in another

place than here. As far as I understand it's not unethical to help a pet

to get improvements.

If these posts are only for MS patients, why haven't I been told to

find me another place?

Have a nice day :-)

Ingrid

----- Original Message ----
From: R B <berconst@yahoo. com>
To: lowdosenaltrexone@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:30:11 AM
Subject: Re: [lowdosenaltrexone] Re:The purpose of this group is to discuss LDN

Dont tell anyone this site is only about LDN.

I have read about vitamins, bee stings and about
anything else you can think of on this site. It is
also suppose to be a MS site but people ask the same
stupid questions and talk about ldn for their kids and
pets.

So DONT tell anyone they cant post about another
therapy if they chose. IT IS A PUBLIC BOARD!

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